However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! But no, that was not the case. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. Miller lived two hours from Delphi at the time of his arrest. They seriously posted photos just so they could retain cool points. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Though there was no press conference held on the third anniversary of the murders in February of 2020, investigators said that the case was not cold. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. You had mentioned in one of your blogs not being sure what he did for a living. ABC News Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Indiana State Police's analysis of Allen's gun "determined the unspent round located within two feet" of one of the victims "had been cycled through Richard M. Allen's Sig Sauer Model P226," the probable cause affidavit said. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. You dont have LE sources. The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. Lists a factory as place of residence. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. One daughter, estranged. I like some of these guys. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. Unfortunately, its not free. Double jeopardy? You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. Despite mention of a gun, it's not clear if Abby or Libby died from gunshot wounds. I have the images but Im not sure they are accurate. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Im not stupid. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? DELPHI, Ind. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Now, that does NOT necessarily indicate staging. Interesting. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. If comments start getting out of hand please feel free to report, though. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. After all, there was nothing they could have done anyway. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. John Kelly has some good information. James Chadwell, 43, was added as a suspect in 2021 after he was arrested and convicted for luring a nine-year-old girl to his home where he sexually assaulted and strangled her in his basement,20 miles from where Abby and Libby were murdered. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! Indiana State Police told ABC News on Tuesday: "Out of respect for the prosecutorial process, which is being led by the Carroll County prosecutor, we are refraining from making any public statements and are going to allow the probable cause affidavit to stand on its own. Where did he get the food and what was the food? It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. LE has no clue what is going on. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. I believe Mr. X is the guy. I dont know, FIELDS! Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Same with Evansdale probably too. Pay minimum of $20 for lifetime membership to our group. The bodies were found posed by the killer, who is believed to have been between five and ten feet tall and 180 to 200 pounds. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. They think he did it. I have no idea why shes doing this, but its not because she killed her own sister. Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. Why do kids play make-believe? And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Im sure the guy does look at posts and stuff which is creepy as all hell. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Allen, who is also known as Ricky Allen and Rick Allen, is 50 years old and lives in Delphi, about five minutes from the murder scene. The Indiana State Superintendent of Police is proud of the arrest of an accused in the Delphi massacre. The "Nearly Decapitated" rumors : r/DelphiMurders. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. Forgive me if someone else posted this.but the FBI was called in immediately. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. Hes been on my radar for a long time now. David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victims phone is proven. The arrest of Allen could be the end of a years-long investigation during which numerous possible leads have led nowhere, and police have remained tight-lipped about details of the case. 'Libby' German, 14, left, and her 13-year-old best friend Abigail 'Abby' Williams were murdered outside Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. I think cycles finally straighten out at age 15. Oh theyre not made by him. Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. Have for a long time. Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him. I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. On the day of the murders, he was wearing a blue jacket and jeans. They wanted the crime scene to appear like something it wasn't, which could hypothetically include posing the bodies. Again, not saying that he did it. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Im confused. The warrant, obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast and released to Indianapolis FOX59, offered no further detail on what the souvenir was, although it did say that 'the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered,' implying that the killer had taken something they'd been wearing. We dont do that on here and never have. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. A lot of my friends didnt join. Wheres the rest of it? It was dark. An arrest has been made in the Delphi murders of two teens, Libby German and Abby Williams, who were found dead near a walking trail in 2017. . Photo by LIBBY GERMAN / FACEBOOK The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. So who is Mr. X? Its at his home on a shelf! R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. 13, 2017. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. She wanted to meet up with him. The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Alex Murdaugh Begins Prison Sentence With New Haircut, What About Buster Murdaugh? A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. Ronald Logan was never named a suspect, despite the warrant. It is unclear whether they were referring to Allen or not. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? If the early rumor is true, and Abby was posed fully clothed as if asleep, it might indicate some remorse or "undoing" by the killer. LE still has access to the conviction. Mr Logans home was just 1,400 feet from the location where Libby and Abbys bodies were discovered on Valentines Day 2017. Yes it is all speculation. Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. If it is not a serial killer, it can be too confrontational.Still, you never know and for sure a creepy idea. Today is the day.. The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. He later discussed the placement of Abby Williams' body at the crime scene, and he claimed that the victims were not sexually assaulted (none of this information has been publicly released yet). Authorities have released no connections between Chadwell and the Delphi murders. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. Multiple, multiple deep stab wounds.. Mr Kline allegedly told investigators he would use social media accounts to talk to underage girls and had exchanged messages with and received about 100 sexual photos and about 20 sexually explicit videos from around 15 underage girls. However, the investigators have made it clear over the years that they are not yet ready to release further information about what happened to the teens. Thats very embarrassing. Five years later, Abigail Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were taken into custody Friday five years after Allen, 50, was found dead on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Ron Logan, who died in 2020, had long been put forward as a prime suspect. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? There was posing. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. But Garrett said he doesn't understand how it took so long for an arrest. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. The family knew something was wrong. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. Fondled similarly to Libby. She was emphatic about that. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. I thought there was more to this blog. What are those supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages about? Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. The comments below have not been moderated, By So, the girls were found on RLs property. But we are not naming person. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. River searched near home of man police say posed . Following the identification of a suspect in the Delphi murder, extensive discussion about the case and purportedly leaked texts from that terrible night erupted online. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Protected: Post to Discuss All of the Various POIs and Theories in the Delphi Murders from the Crime to the Present, Protected to Avoid Libel and Character Assassination Part 10, Alt Left: This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, Alt Left: Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, NATO Helped the Ukrainians Fire All Those Drones at Russia, Including all the Way to Moscow, The Conquest of Germany and Japan Never Ended, The Conquest and Destruction of Russia Project Goes Way Back to Post World War 2, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. We can look into any case we want! People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Allen's lead defense attorney Brad Rozzi did not respond to a request for comment and fellow attorney Andrew Baldwin declined to comment. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. Required fields are marked *. Since Libby and Abby were young, and the perpetrator is between 18 and 40, according to the statistics would that indicate a possible attempt to thwart the investigation? Is that also speculation? DELPHI FBI Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were "moved and staged" at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents. When Allen voluntarily spoke to police on Oct. 26, 2022, he said he never allowed anyone to borrow that gun, which he said he owned since 2001, the document added. The warrant, filed by an FBI agent investigating the murders back in 2017, was to carry out a search on the home of Ronald Logan. How do you join and can you join as a European? She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. They were reported missing two hours after they didn't show up for their ride home, and their bodies were found the following day about half a mile away from the bridge. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? Kline - who is heavy-set and pasty-faced - used an image of a ripped and muscular young man to trick underage girls into speaking to him. There are signatures on the document. "He put himself at the scene, on the bridge.". I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. Hasnt he suffered enough? Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. 17:50 GMT 31 Oct 2022. Old Abigail Abby Williams. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. Possibly works with kids. Thank you for stopping by the site. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. Was he set up to take the fall? They have also suggested that the crime scene was odd in nature. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. 14) For more, see video, though this is the gist of it. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Its a dead end. Instead of telling me to "look up" this or that, and hinting , somewhat, at theories,why not just state the theory . Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Thank you so much! I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. The act of leaving a victim's body in an unusual position is a conscious criminal action by an offender to thwart an investigation, shock the finder and investigators of the crime scene, or give perverted pleasure to the killer. Would you please email me? Any context? A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. See? Theres only one parent. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. FBI agent believed bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders | wthr.com Delphi murder investigators focus on social media profile Watch on Who is the creator behind anthony_shots' fake profile? 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. He is said to haveadmitted talking to Libby German using a fake Instagram profile called Anthony_shots. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. and our Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby were murdered in 2017, but the killer remains elusive. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. An updated sketch for the suspect was released in April of 2019, and no further information about his appearance has been publicly shared. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. Guilty until proven innocent! The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. The bodies were found on property belonging to Ronald Logan. My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. Xs wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. rights of individuals with developmental disabilities handout,
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